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Sam Asghari claims estranged wife Britney Spears attacked him and gave him a BLACK EYE while he slept and that security had to protect him during other attacks by singer
Asghari, 29, reportedly told frieds that the pop princess, 41, would attack him during their seven years together, according to TMZ.
Sources told the publication that there were numerous fights where security had to step in between the pair.
The model was reportedly left stunned after his then-wife started punching him as he was sleeping in their bed.
He was pictured with bruising on his arms and face earlier this year, with sources saying the dates coincide with the alleged attack.
Sources claim that Asghari was concerned with the Toxic star's fascination with knives, which were littered across the singer's $11.8 million home in Thousand Oaks.
One told TMZ that Britney was 'was paranoid someone was going to get her, and she needed the knives as protection.'
The star is also accused of 'flying off the handle' at the smallest thing, which left Asghari terrified.
It comes after DailyMail.com revealed that their relationship had descended into a dark and desperate state in the final weeks of their union.
Sources revealed how Asghari thought he could 'save her', only to realize after 13 months of marriage that there may well be no chance of ever 'saving Britney'.
Asghari cited 'irreconcilable differences' when he filed for divorce from the singer - as sources claim that he felt he couldn't leave Spears alone.
According to court docs, Asghari is asking the multi-millionaire for spousal support and to cover his attorneys fees.
The prenup stated that he was entitled to '$1 million per every two years' of their marriage, with a cap at $10 million after 15 years, according to US Weekly.
He has also allegedly waived any claims to Britney's music collection, and his name is not listed on the deeds of their shared home.
Spears raised eyebrows on Sunday when she posted a bizarre video of herself dancing on a stripper pole in a skimpy leopard-print lingerie set after the news of their breakup became public.
Since tying the knot in 2022, Britney has added to her fortune by signing a $15 million deal with publishing house Simon & Schuster for a tell-all memoir titled The Woman In Me.
The star also returned to music by releasing two new singles, a new version of Tiny Dancer with Elton John, and Mind Your Business with will.i.am.
Page Six reported that Britney has hired celebrity divorce attorney Laura Wasser — who boasts A-list clients such as Kim Kardashian, Kevin Costner and Johnny Depp.
But it's been alleged that Asghari is threatening to release 'extraordinarily embarrassing' information about his spouse if she refuses to renegotiate the terms — something a source close to Spears told DailyMail.com is 'absurd.'
She previously enlisted Wasser's help in 2008 as she fought her ex-husband Kevin Federline, 45, over custody of their two sons.
The exes — who split in 2006 after two years of marriage — share Jayden James, 16, and Sean Preston, 17.
A judge ordered Spears to pay $20,000 a month in child support — a decision that Wasser said the Piece Of Me hitmaker felt 'great' about.
The monthly payments reportedly increased to $60,000 in 2018 and Kevin has full custody of the boys. He reportedly moved the family to Hawaii last month, without saying goodbye to Britney.
DailyMail.com confirmed Wednesday that Asghari and Spears have gone their separate ways after a 'nuclear argument' that saw him confront his wife over rumoUrs she was unfaithful. It is unknown whether the rumors are true.
Asghari was said to have believed the rumours Spears was unfaithful, with the pair having a 'huge fight' and Asghari moving out of their home and now living in a place of his own.
Do we believe the hubby or is he just after her money? 
Reply by Cashmere
on September 14, 2024 at 10:26 PM
You can't say that, Ann. Jesus...I really hope nobody reads this board. Imagine if a guy made that joke. It wouldn't be funny. We write lots of... weird stuff around here. Let's try to keep it at least... non-violent weird stuff.
There is a pic of JL with his hand in his undies. Very weird photo shoot. He's wearing very awful tighty-whities, BTW.
That's scary. I would never go near an elephant.
Jaime is as crazy as the crazy fans. He thinks he's part of the band. He seems angry because they didn't... consult him. He calls what the band's doing cash grab. It's... weird that he's the only son saying something. Tyler and Draven haven't said anything. The twin girls are too young.
Exactly. Still... some idiots say "it's not Chester". Well... duh! Chester isn't with us anymore. Nobody is... or can be Chester.
Anyway, I like Emily's voice. The Hamburg thing is too short notice. I hope they come back next year.
You don't really think it's a cult, do you?
I think they'll choose to be a horse.
Thank you. I don't know WTH is wrong with Katie. She wants to... play up the girlboss and empower women, but she doesn't know how to do it.
Just a while back... peeps were calling Katie fat. So... let's show them in the Woman's World vid that you lost the baby weight. But many moms and non-slim women can't afford Ozempic or a personal trainer, nutritionist and a chef. They can't afford a maid and babysitter so they can live in the gym till they're a size zero.
So her female fans get depressed while the male fans whack off. She could have shown her body in beautiful clothes. The focus would have been more on the beautiful clothes. As far as I know, hetero women don't care about (half) naked women.
Exactly. I just want to add that you don't have to quit a religion because it has scumbags in it. Should I quit being a Catholic because of all the... awful things that many Catholics do or... the higher-ups in the church do?
That really sent chills down my spine. No woman should experience that.
When will your "essay" be ready?
Billboard: Travis Kelce’s Reps Slam ‘Entirely False’ PR Plan for Taylor Swift Breakup, Considering Legal Action
In a statement shared with E! News Thursday (Sept. 5), Kelce’s reps at Full Scope Public Relations wholly denied that the papers circulating online — which bear the agency’s logo at the top and the title “Comprehensive Media Plan for Travis Kelce’s Public Relations Following Breakup with Taylor Swift” — have any validity.
“These documents are entirely false and fabricated and were not created, issued, or authorized by this agency,” the spokesperson wrote. “We have engaged our legal team to initiate proceedings against the individuals or entities responsible for the unlawful and injurious forgery of documents.”
CNN: Justin Timberlake pleads guilty to lesser charge of driving while impaired; issues a public safety announcement
Sag Harbor Village Justice Carl Irace sentenced Timberlake to 25 hours of community service and ordered the pop star to issue a public safety announcement. He will also pay a fine of $500 and have his driver’s license suspended in New York State for 90 days starting Friday.
Female gaze alert!
Well... did he?
We don't see much Shannon... much of Shannon. I don't think JL can afford him.
Things like this feels... fake. It has nothing to do with who is better or... prettier. Let an obese girl win to support the body positivity agenda. The... health agenda isn't important.
Healthline: It’s estimated that a little over 42% of American adults have obesity, while about 30.7% are overweight. Overall, more than two-thirds of U.S. adults in the United States are overweight or have obesity.
Reply by AnnaB
on September 20, 2024 at 4:14 AM
Sordid new details have emerged of the so-called sex rooms that Sean “Diddy” Combs allegedly kept in his Miami mansion — filled with sex toys, bondage gear, hidden cameras and lingerie, according to a federal source, who said the disgraced rapper is “as bad as Epstein.”
One of the Department of Homeland Security agents who helped raid Diddy’s Florida abode claimed that the music mogul had rooms that were clearly “dedicated to sex” with cameras all around.
“So if you were in those sex parties, you were being recorded from every possible angle, including angles you wouldn’t have known about,” the source said, referring to the sometimes days-long orgies he called “freak offs” where drugged-up victims were allegedly forced to have sex with male prostitutes.
“In my opinion, he’s as bad as Jeffrey Epstein,” the source added about the late pedophile who hanged himself behind bars. “These women are young. Either barely legal, or barely illegal.”
On Tuesday, Combs was slapped with federal sex-trafficking and racketeering charges. According to the bombshell indictment, he allegedly coerced his female victims into days-long sex sessions as part of his alleged pattern of abuse dating back more than a decade.
The indictment alleges that the women — some of whom were still teenagers — were coerced into “Freak Off” sex sessions with male prostitutes that were often recorded while the music producer masturbated.
But the federal source told The Post that sometimes, Diddy would allegedly just watch the romps from another room.
“He also was able to watch the action remotely on his phone, cast it onto a TV in another part of the house,” the source said. “He didn’t have to be in the room when the sex was happening, although he frequently was.”
Diddy’s employees allegedly helped facilitate the sick sessions by arranging travel, booking hotel rooms where they would take place and stocking the rooms with supplies — including drugs, baby oil, lubricants and extra linen.
“We have evidence that these women didn’t feel like they were free to go,” the DHS officer said, “and there’s video evidence that some of the girls are clearly out of it while these men are having sex with them.”
Combs would often also keep videos of the “sensitive, embarrassing and incriminating” sessions — sometimes without his victims’ knowledge — so he could use them “as collateral to ensure the continued obedience and silence of the victims,” the indictment alleges.
He faces three federal charges of racketeering conspiracy, sex trafficking and transportation to engage in prostitution.
Combs’ arrest comes after he was hit with a flurry of lawsuits in the past year by people who allege he subjected them to physical or sexual abuse during the height of his fame as a producer in the 1990s and 2000s.
Combs was arrested by Homeland Security in New York City on Monday. He has pleaded not guilty and is being held without bond.
Authorities say that some of Combs’ alleged victims are cooperating with authorities.
https://nypost.com/2024/09/18/us-news/diddy-as-bad-as-epstein-says-officer-who-raided-miami-mansion/
Diddy ‘put on suicide watch’ according to reports
Diddy has been put “on suicide watch” at the Metropolitan Detention Center as he awaits trial, according to reports.
In their motion to grant Diddy bail, his lawyers cited the conditions inside the prison. “Several courts in this District have recognized that the conditions at Metropolitan Detention Center are not fit for pre-trial detention,” they wrote.
The judge sided with the prosecution and sent Diddy back to pre-trial detention.
50 Cent mocks Diddy for '1,000 bottles of lube’
In a post on Instagram, 50 Cent captioned a photograph of himself during a recent appearance on Drew Barrymore’s talk show with the message: “Here I am keeping good company with @thedrewbarrymoreshow and I don’t have 1,000 bottles of lube at the house.”
What happens next?
Diddy’s lawyers have said they want the case to move to trial “as soon as possible.”
A trial date has not yet been set and legal experts say he faces potentially “a long wait.”
Diddy’s daily routine in prison
Diddy will remain in jail until his case goes to trial.
He is staying in the Special Housing Unit of the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, which has previously been home to Ghislaine Maxwell and R Kelly to name a few.
Diddy’s day will begin at 6am, when he will be expected to mop and clean his cell.
The rapper will be given three meals a day and is allowed to take a shower three times a week.
Recreational time is limited to one hour per day.
His laywer, Marc Agnifilo, who tried to persuade a judge to let his client wait for trial under house arrest, said: “I’m not going to let him sit in that jail a day longer than he has to.”
FBI raids found narcotics, AR-15s and 1,000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant
The FBI raided Diddy’s home in March, which at the time his lawyers said was “a gross overuse of military level force.”
Tuesday’s indictment, however, revealed some of what authorities recovered in those raids: narcotics, three AR-15s with “defaced serial numbers,” ammunition, a drum magazine, and “more than 1,000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant”.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/diddy-sean-combs-indictment-suicide-watch-jail-latest-b2616132.html
Someone should throw a few Lego on the stage so we can hear him scream. lol JL doesn't want to scream these days. He can, but he's lazy.
That's funny, sad and infuriating.
So overweight and obesity aren't the only bizarre things they're encouraging. OK.
Really? lol
Sorry, mom. I forgot lots of netiizens want to monkey see, monkey do.
BTW, if JL is my hubby, I'd never hurt him. At least not in an obvious way with a baseball bat. lol I can do better than that. He may need a psychologist to help him figure out if what I was doing was hurting him or pleasing him.
What was his hand doing?
I'm glad I haven't seen that pic. lol
I didn't even try to get tix. I hear it sold out in less than 30 minutes. So they better come back.
Socials make peeps depressed, but they keep looking at fake, photo shopped and filtered stuff on socials.
This sh*t shouldn't be happening. WTH? Do trans-men walk around naked in the guys locker room?
Shannon is too hot for the album promo. lol
They're giving up. They want to make overweight and obese the norm.
Reply by Triksy
on September 20, 2024 at 7:23 AM
Imane Khelif is suing some peeps.
Hindustan Times: During the Olympics, the 25-year-old boxer received backlash from a number of prominent individuals, including former US President Donald Trump, novelist J.K. Rowling, and tech billionaire Musk, who had reposted a remark on X that stated, "Absolutely," implying that “men don't belong in women's sports.”
Author J.K. Rowling of the Harry Potter series labelled Khelif a “man” who was “enjoying the distress of a woman he's just punched in the head”. At the same time, Trump shared a photo of her fight with Carini on social media, writing, “I will keep men out of women's sports!”
He also did some math. I think he concluded that each band member will earn $1M from the 6 stop world tour.
Many consider Scientology a cult.
You will love this one.
https://imgur.com/a/z5xXxfT
Showers only three times a week? That's like an open invitation for infections and stuff.
Reply by Blue-Rose
on September 20, 2024 at 12:31 PM
After seven yeas, just Hamburg and London. They should have hold the concert in a stadium.
Of course not, Cash. Jesus, you are turning into an old hag. I'm just having fun writing nonsense.
Katie looks awesome. Black hair + blue eyes = my favorite combo for obvious reasons. But the song is awful.
Of course not. If they believe in what the religion teaches, they should just follow them. Live by them. If you can read, you don't need anybody to read them for you. And you sure as heck shouldn't worry about what others do.
Patience is a virtue, you know?
This topic is interesting to read, but it's really annoying to discuss. That's why I’m staying out of that discussion. Some are really pushing it. Compare humans to fish. Intersex and DSD are evolution. Women has a new definition. WTH? I had to change the chapter A V doesn’t mean you’re a woman. So I think I'm done, unless some bizarre comparison or theory resurface again. When I’m done replying, I’ll update my post.
Sex/Female vs Gender/Woman
A V doesn’t mean you’re a woman
Safety and Fairness vs Inclusion
Body vs Identity
Men shouldn’t decide in matters about women’s body
I don't even want to know how many kids are overweight and obese.
How old is 50 Cent? He's really embracing his X-chrom and be a mean b*tch.
I don't have X. Is that all they wrote? Doesn't sound scary.
Well, they don't perform in clubs and malls. After that tour, they probably won't do anything else. The three new members won't get royalties yet, I think.
A Scientologist shouldn't care about what non-Scientologists think. If the believers think it's a religion, than it is to them.
The cell is cleaner than him. It gets mopped and cleaned every day.
Reply by AnnaB
on September 27, 2024 at 4:21 AM
Filmmaker James Cameron has joined the board of directors of Stability AI, an artificial intelligence company that allows users to create images, as well as audio and visual content, via text and image prompts.
Cameron, in a statement on Tuesday, said joining the London-based company’s board was fitting, because he’s spent his career “seeking out emerging technologies that push the boundaries of what’s possible, all in the service of telling incredible stories.”
“I was at the forefront of CGI over three decades ago, and I’ve stayed on the cutting edge since. Now, the intersection of generative AI and CGI image creation is the next wave,” Cameron continued. “The convergence of these two totally different engines of creation will unlock new ways for artists to tell stories in ways we could have never imagined. Stability AI is poised to lead this transformation.”
The financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Stability AI’s open-source models are widely used by AI creators. Stable Diffusion, its best known model, is a text-to-image model that has been downloaded 150 million times since it was launched two years ago.
For those unfamiliar with it, that means you can type a brief description of an image or video you’d like to see, and Stable Diffusion will churn it out within a few seconds. TheWrap, for example, asked Stability AI’s model to create an image of James Cameron winning Wimbledon, which you can see below:
Stability AI also offers a video model that creates brief clips (2 to 5 seconds long) based on text or images. The company also offers a model that creates 3D objects.
Cameron joins Stability AI after an already busy year for the company. CEO Prem Akkaraju, the former head of visual effects company Weta Digital, joined in June, right as the company was closing a new $80 million round of funding. (Stability AI had raised $101 million in 2022.)
Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt and Sean Parker, the Napster co-founder and ex-Facebook president, were two of the main investors behind Stability AI’s most recent cash infusion. Parker also now serves as the board’s executive chairman.
Akkaraju, in a statement on Tuesday, said Cameron’s addition to the board was a “monumental statement” for both the company and the AI industry in general.
“James Cameron lives in the future and waits for the rest of us to catch up,” Akkaraju said. “Stability AI’s mission is to transform visual media for the next century by giving creators a full stack AI pipeline to bring their ideas to life. We have an unmatched advantage to achieve this goal with a technological and creative visionary like James at the highest levels of our company.”
The Cameron-Stability AI partnership shouldn’t come as a total surprise to anyone who has followed the director. Cameron is, of course, well-known for leveraging computer-generated imagery in blockbuster flicks like “Terminator 2,” “Titanic” and “Avatar.”
And in more recent years, Cameron has shown a keen interest in AI — both in terms of how it’ll influence the arts, as well as humanity.
Last year, Cameron said he had life-or-death concerns about the US falling behind its adversaries when it comes to AI.
“I warned you guys in 1984, and you didn’t listen,” Cameron said. “I think the weaponization of AI is the biggest danger. I think that we will get into the equivalent of a nuclear arms race with AI, and if we don’t build it, the other guys are for sure going to build it, and so then it’ll escalate.”
On a lighter note, Cameron said he wasn’t as worried about AI being used to replace writers and other Hollywood creators — something that became a major issue during the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes.
“It’s never an issue of who wrote it, it’s a question of, is it a good story?” Cameron said in 2023.
“I just don’t personally believe that a disembodied mind that’s just regurgitating what other embodied minds have said… I don’t believe that [is] something that’s going to move an audience.”
He may not believe AI can write good scripts, but his new partnership suggests he’s bullish on the technology helping filmmakers make better movies.
https://www.thewrap.com/james-cameron-joins-stability-ai-board/
They added a few more days. The venues are bigger too. So he should recalculate and quit looking for attention.
Everything is a cult these days. lol LP haters say that LP runs a cult named Linkin Park Underground. lol
I expected fat JL (Chapter 27) or bony JL (Requiem or Dallas). But that's healthy weight JL in awful undies. Nice "peekaboo", though.
I'd have loved that pic if he had cool undies on.
Well, there are small (30k) and huge (100k) stadiums. La Défense is a big 40k arena. Sunday, Nov. 3rd. I got my tix this time. I swear, if I didn't get tix this time, I'd have send Mike Shinoda a death threat. Peeps are closer to the edge these days and send death threats for less.
Since Elon bought Twitter, he wants you to have an X account to see new posts. It didn't motivate me to make an account. lol
I wonder if the amount of X members increased or traffic on X decreased because of that.
You're very nice and patient with those delusional trans-b!tches. Can you include this in your essay? You can polish it. lol I just replied to those fvcked up idiots who keep posting Tik Tok vids of trans-b!tches claiming they have periods and menopause, as if that sh!t proves anything. The only thing that proves is that male brain + female hormones = some new mental disorder.
Trans-men don't say they ejaculate with their surgically created penis, because they know they have no prostate, seminal vesicles and glands to do so. What comes out of their brand new penis is the same fluid from the skene’s gland that used to come out of their vagina when they had an orgasm. So male hormones don't make them delusional.
Trans-b!tches keep insisting they have periods, even though they have no uterus and ovaries to do so. Pardon me, trans-b!tches keep insisting, because they experience hormonal fluctuations that causes symptoms similar to PMS. Oh, fvck off! Of course your hormone level will change, because you get female hormones regularly injected into your body to keep you looking like a woman. What's happening to your body isn't natural. So do not use the name of something natural and normal for XX-women for what your delusional fake arse is experiencing. Call your bullsh!t something else. Gender-affirming hormonal fluctuation or some sh!t like that.
BTW, you should transfer what's posted here about Imane Khelif to your thread but in a different post.
Don't bother her, because she's the gf of, the sister of, the daughter of, the cousin of, the niece of. What comes after "of" is bf, brothers, father, male cousins and uncles. That is said, instead of don't bother her, because she'll quick you're sorry arse.
So no, nobody assumes that women are as strong or stronger than any man.
Trans-racial? Really? lol Your essay is teaching me a lot of things. I think I heard that before. I think I thought it meant something else.
Reply by Triksy
on September 27, 2024 at 8:17 AM
Sydney-based queer health organisation ACON, which is primarily funded by the NSW Government and also receives money from the ABC, advised workplaces to abandon the terms to promote LGBTQ inclusion.
The lobby group has suggested the words 'mother' and 'father' be replaced with 'primary caregiver' and 'secondary caregiver'.
In a training video, HR staff were told to avoid using gendered terms when writing office policies to make sure gender norms are not reinforced.
'When we continue to use terms that buy into that, such as 'maternity leave', 'paternity leave', 'mother', 'dads', all of these terms, that's reinforcing those gender norms,' the video states.
'So using terms like 'primary caregivers', 'secondary caregiver', making sure we're not referring to partners using gender terms like 'mother', like 'dad', is really important.'
Radio 2GB host Ben Fordham, who is also a father, slammed the initiative as a 'crack pot idea' being pushed by an organisation with an 'official relationship with the ABC'.
Listeners were quick to share their opinions in the comments.
'I am a Mother, a Grandmother and I will be dammed if I will be identified as anything other than that. I am a woman and proud of it,' one woman wrote.
'It's diminishing my much treasured role as a mother and I will not bow to this insanity,' a second agreed.
'It's time to ban lobby groups and the funding to ABC - they do not represent all Australians so all Australians should not be paying for them,' a third commented.
'That is utter insanity! And 'secondary caregiver' is an incredibly insulting and pejorative title,' a fourth wrote.
In a statement addressing the 'repeated attacks' in recent months from 'opponents of LGBTQ equality, ACON said the goal of the employer support program was to create more inclusive workplaces for LGBTQ employees.
'Our members strive to be inclusive of all employees and create inclusive workplaces for all Australians. Pride in Diversity provides members with LGBTQ subject matter expertise in this aspect of their diversity and inclusion strategy,' it stated.
'Pride in Diversity was established following requests from employers, seeking advice and support in this area to enable parity with their international offices and emerging best practice in diversity and inclusion.'
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Media Watch tackled this issue
It turns out- the public broadcaster [ABC] pays thousands of dollars a year to be a member of ACON.
That gives them access to something called the “Australian Workplace Equality Index”
This is where ACON publicly lists the country’s most inclusive organisations- based on who follows their ideas.
The ABC received 'gold status' at ACON’s industry awards earlier this year and so did the ABC CEO - David Anderson.
The ABC scored extra points because Mr Anderson personally appeared at Mardi Gras.
If he spoke at the event, he would have scored more points!
You can see what’s happening here.
The ABC is sucking up to this group - to try to get a higher spot on the scoresheet!
And that also impacts the independence of the ABC.
That’s why Paul Barry blew the whistle [...].
And he had proof to back up his point.
Media Watch revealed documents obtained under Freedom of Information requests.
They showed the lobby group has been offering editorial tips on how the ABC should be covering sensitive stories.
One email shows an ABC journalist seeking advice from ACON on the correct definition of the word “family”
Another email confirms the ABC will receive extra points towards its inclusion ranking… for positive coverage of trans issues.
As Paul Barry points out on Media Watch:
'The ABC had failed to cover the controversial closure of the UK’s famous Tavistock gender clinic.
"We also noted that the ABC had ignored legitimate medical debate about caution and safeguards in treating gender dysphoria in children."
Only last week- ABC chair Ita Buttrose had to apologise over a story about trans athletes.
The original story failed to discuss research showing athletes born male have physical advantages over females.
Ita described it as 'serious editorial lapses'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11330055/Parents-slam-plan-ban-words-mother-father-workplaces-bid-inclusive.html
The Darlington Memorial Hospital workers launched legal action in June for alleged sexual harassment against County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust.
They claim their bosses ignored their concerns about having to share a changing room with a colleague born biologically male who now identifies as a woman.
The nurses said vulnerable women who have suffered sexual abuse were having panic attacks before working on wards after having to get undressed in front of the 26-year-old transgender nurse who stared at their breasts and lingered in the room.
After taking legal action three months ago, the nurses were given what they labelled a 'humiliating' changing room - which was meant to be temporary but is still in place.
The nurses - Bethany Hutchison, Lisa Lockey, Annice Grundy, Tracey Hooper and Joanne Bradbury - have been dubbed the 'Darlington Five' and compared to the Ford workers who fought for equal pay and inspired the 2010 film Made in Dagenham.
In a joint statement today, the nurses said: 'We continue to be appalled at how we and our female colleagues are being humiliated and dehumanised by the hospital and Trust.
'Instead of listening and acting on our concerns and the public and media outcry, they have doubled down, putting transgender ideology before women's safety.
'We were told the locker room would be 'temporary' until a solution was found. This locker room, however, does not appear to be temporary and no solution has been found.
'Changing in this room has made us feel humiliated, embarrassed, isolated, ostracised, degraded and dehumanised.'
They claimed that the room still falls under the same policy as any other changing room facility in the trust - and therefore a biological male identifying as a woman could still access it if they wanted.
The woman continued: 'From the beginning we have always advocated for our male colleagues to be given dignified changing room space - we just do not believe that space should be in the female changing room.'
The case began when the nurses claimed they were forced without warning or consultation to share a changing room with their transgender colleague.
One nurse, who experienced sexual abuse as a child, described how the colleague caused her to have panic attacks after repeatedly asking her in the changing room when they were alone together: 'Are you getting changed yet?'
Other nurses who were said to have been traumatised were those whose religious and cultural beliefs mean they cannot undress around men.
But the Christian Legal Centre, which is supporting the women, claims that the trust's policies allow any member of staff to identify in the opposite gender and to access single-sex changing rooms, toilets or showers on that basis.
Some 26 nurses then wrote to HR and senior management about their concerns, but said they were told via their ward manager that they should be 're-educated', 'broaden their mindset' and be more 'inclusive'.
In June, they went public with their story and their launch of their legal case – which prompted support from then-shadow health secretary Wes Streeting.
Mr Streeting, who became Health Secretary after the General Election, tweeted on June 24: 'I support the nurses and I'm horrified that they've had to resort to legal action.
'We've got to find a better way through this and I'd be happy to meet them. We've got to find a way through that treats trans people with respect and respects women's safe spaces.'
The woman are still yet to meet with either Mr Streeting or the Department for Health and Social Care, but MailOnline understands that the department is now trying to sort out a time and date for this to take place.
Speaking about this, the nurses said: 'The non-response from Mr Streeting is deeply disappointing, but sadly we are also not surprised.
'Nonetheless, we call on him to honour his promise and willingness to meet with us to discuss what has happened to us and why this dangerous policy needs to change urgently.'
And the hospital and trust are understood to be continuing to allow the female changing room to be accessed by anyone who identifies as a woman, including the colleague in question.
Each of the nurses are also claimed to have received letters from the trust with threats about speaking to the media.
A sign, firmly taped on to the door with rainbow colours across an NHS logo also appeared on the female changing room which said: 'Inclusive changing space.'
In big red letters, it also said: 'Do not remove this sign.'
The sign has since been taken down, but the nurses' legal team claim no explanation has been given by management for this.
The nurses were then told in July that their ward manager's office was being cleared out and would become a temporary locker room for anyone uncomfortable getting undressed in the female changing room.
This room only had one chair and a hook on the back of the door – and the nurses' lawyers said those choosing to change in this room had to leave their belongings in piles on the floor, which they deemed an infection and security risk.
There are also privacy concerns, given the room also opens straight onto a busy ward corridor and is opposite a patient side room. The door has a key press lock, and whenever it is opened it exposes anyone already getting changed inside.
Lockers have been provided in the last few weeks, but the nurses' legal team claim there are not enough for all the women wanting to use the room and the space is limited.
They therefore argue that has humiliated the nurses and further isolated them from other staff.
The nurses have received hundreds of cards supporting them from women across the UK, with Harry Potter author JK Rowling among those backing their case.
One card said: 'Thank you for your bravery and for making a stand to protect women and girls. We are all so grateful to you. The world is watching.'
Another stated: 'Good luck with your case, you are all doing a fantastic job bringing this dreadful situation to public attention and standing up for the safety and dignity of all women and girls. You have an army of women at your back and we are fighting back against this dangerous ideology… you have massive support.'
And a third said: 'Thank you for fighting for women everywhere in your struggle for dignity privacy and safety at work. Wishing you the very best of luck, and when it gets hard, remember there are so many women behind you.'
Responding to this support, the nurses said: 'We have been overwhelmed and are truly grateful to the letters of support we have received from women across the country. Your support means the world to us and keeps us going.
'We will not give in to any intimidation and bullying and will continue to stand for justice and for women and girls across the country in this matter.'
Andrea Williams, chief executive of the Christian Legal Centre, said: 'This is a hospital where ideology has trumped biology. We call on Wes Streeting to intervene and protect and uphold biological reality in the NHS.'
A spokeswoman for County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust told MailOnline: 'Additional alternative arrangements have been put in place.
'These include a private, lockable changing room and an office which has been converted into a locker room for the storage of belongings.'
And a Department of Health and Social Care spokeswoman said: 'Single sex spaces should be protected, including changing rooms.
'The Secretary of State for Health and Social Care was horrified by the way these nurses were treated and is happy to meet with them.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13889315/NHS-Darlington-nurses-locker-room-trans-colleague.html
Or fungus (plural is fungi).
Me neither.
Sometimes they say biological female too.
Apparently, jellyfish is immortal. It does die. But during the decay process, it regenerates and come back as a polyp. Unfortunately, humans can’t do that.
Read the two articles I included in this post.
It needs a little human touch. Not too much, because humans also write awful stories.
This trans and inclusion stuff is getting out of hand.
Reply by Blue-Rose
on September 27, 2024 at 12:21 PM
Pau Garcia-Milà
Well, I'll be damned. Digi-Sapiens is cool or scary?
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Humans will end up destroying themselves. Soon, Digi-Sapiens will replace Homo Sapiens.
Chester's mom gave an interview in which she claims that Mike promised her that he'll tell her if they decide to continue with the band. She also claims that Mike told Chester that he'll replace him with a woman. Chester was devastated. But apparently, Chester's ex-wise said the mom is lying. Fans think Chester didn't have a good relationship with his mom, because he wrote the song Numb about her. And they say his son never cared about LP.
Anyway, no matter what they do, the fans seem cool with Emily. And the new song Heavy Is The Crown seemed to have erased any doubt they had about her. Apparently, she and the MV broke the internet and went viral, because she screams for like fifteen seconds. I like the song. She's awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FrhtahQiRc
Speaking of concerts, the Bleed Out concert is just around the corner. Have you seen how long Stefan's hair has gotten? Here's a pic https://imgur.com/a/A0KRuQc
I didn't know one of Elon's sons is now a trans-woman. That's why he's so hell-bent on killing "the woke mind virus".
I'm nice in my essay. It's too long to include profanity too.
I wasn't going to react to that Tik Tok BS. I'm going to react to the spirit world thing first and change/add some little things to my essay. Everything italic in the text down below is new. I'll include a polished version of what you wrote now or next time.
Trans-men obviously don't want trouble with the XY-men. They don't bother the XY-men or try to take anything from them. Trans-men seem to know their place and they seem to stay in their lane. Trans-women don't seem to know their place.
Is that good English?
Will do.
Exactly.
Maybe they want to emphasize it, but that's unnecessary, IMO. What will you call the sexual organ, reproductive system and chroms that belongs to the two sexes? It's female or male sexual organ, reproductive system and chroms.
Let's just throw everything in the mix.
OMG. Instead of giving the one trans-woman her own little locker room, the women had to leave. WTH is going? And these organizations are being paid or rewarded by LGBTQIA organizations to push these so-called inclusion policies?
Why can't they come up with new words for their stuff? Say mother, father and other caregiver. Maternity leave, paternity leave and other caregiver leave. Why should the identity of a huge group disappear to include a little group?
This is the type of thing that will turn people against the LGBTQIA community. I used to be a supporter of them. But since the 2024 Olympics, I have a serious problem with the T and I.
Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to a mismatch between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth. The term replaced the previous diagnostic label of gender identity disorder (GID) in 2013 with the release of the diagnostic manual DSM-5 (The Diagnostic And Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders, fifth edition). The condition was renamed to remove the stigma associated with the term disorder.
The ICD-11 (The International Classification Of Diseases, tenth edition) has redefined gender identity-related health, replacing outdated diagnostic categories like “gender identity disorder” with “gender incongruence”. Gender incongruence has been moved out of the “Mental And Behavioural Disorders” chapter and into the new “Conditions Related To Sexual Health” chapter. This reflects current knowledge that trans-related and gender diverse identities are not conditions of mental ill-health, and that classifying them as such can cause enormous stigma.
What a shock that almost all of them competed as female. Only four (#2, #7, #12 and #13) tried to compete with biological men too. More about them after the list.
At the 2024 Olympics, ideology was clearly more important than biology. If your birth certificate and passport say you're female or woman, then you can compete in single-sex female sports.
Lesbians are female human beings who are sexually attracted to other female human beings. They don't like P. It's not the gender identity they are attracted to. They're attracted specifically to the female sex or V. Lesbians are biological women who are sexually attracted to people with female rather than male anatomy – and this continues to be the case even if those male bodied people identify as women.
But having a P won’t give you a deep voice, facial hair etc.
I, for one, will refer to a trans-person as either trans-woman or trans-men, because that's there gender. Hopefully, said person has a name so I can use her or his name.
female = XX-chrom < > gender girl for child and woman for adult
male = XY-chrom < > gender boy for child and man for adult _
_trans female to male = still XX-chroms < > gender trans-boy for child and trans-man for adult
trans male to female = still XY-chroms < > gender trans-girl for child and trans-woman for adult
Anyway, there are some peeps out there who have a very, let's say, extreme way of thinking about sex and gender. Some believe that the two sexes are the two extremes of a spectrum. So the sex can change or is fluid. Some compare humans with animals that can change sex or use tribal beliefs to explain why some believe they're in the wrong body. Some believe that there is no difference between the sexes. Some believe that there's only one sex or no sex at all or there are many sexes. Some believe that Intersex and DSD peeps are evolution’s first steps in turning human beings into a unisexual species.
Yes, some peeps do have both. These peeps used to be called hermaphrodite. Now this condition falls under Intersex. Apparently, some hermaphrodite can have just both sexual organs (V and P), some may (also) have ovarian and testicular tissue and some may (also) have ovary and a testis in the case of genetic mosaicism.
But an extremely small group has both sexes. There are humans who are born with one lung, one kidney, three nipples, six fingers, no legs, no arms etc.. So? A very small group is born that way. Are they evolution too?
It is also pointless to use tribal beliefs and/or to compare humans to fish to explain trans, non-binary, gender fluid, intersex and DSD peeps.
Firstly, according to new definitions/ideologies, gender is the thing that can change or can be fluid. Then why is the sex of a fish used? The sex doesn't change, unless the anatomy of the species allows it. The anatomy of a human being doesn't allow the sex to change or be fluid. The sex of a human being can only change with the help of surgery and medication. Even with surgery and medication, it still doesn't completely change. You get something that resembles the sex that you want. And you'll have certain secondary sex characteristics belonging to that sex as long as you keep taking the medications.
So a human being can't do what a clown fish does (starts as male, then change into female), what a kobudai does (starts as female, then change into male), what a goby does (change sex back and forth) or what a killifish does (both sex at the same time).
Secondly, let me emphasize that gender dysphoria (gender incongruence) is not considered a mental illness anymore, but that might change if peeps start using tribal beliefs, such as the spirit world, to explain gender dysphoria or that trans and non-binary peeps existed since ancient times. This is reaching.
Besides the spirit world, many tribes believe in (white/black) magic/voodoo, supernatural beings etc. Many tribes believe that a certain tribe member can communicate with the spirit world. This tribe member can also summon a spirit and be a temporary vessel for that spirit. Many times, tribe members drink or smoke stuff that can send them into a trance. That can make you experience all kinds of things that aren't real, like the spirit world.
Anyway, some tribes believe that the spirit may not always match the body or that two spirits can inhabit one body. For example, a female spirit can inhabit a male body or a female and a male spirit can inhabit a female body. But the spirit world belief just shows that such belief existed for a long time, not that tans etc. peeps really existed since ancient times.
Just like the spirit world belief can't be confirmed, gender dysphoria can't be confirmed either. There are many kids and adults with some form of autism, bipolar disorder, multiple personality disorder etc. being misdiagnosed as having gender dysphoria.
Tribe peeps don't really believe in mental issues, now, do they? So how do we know that ancient tribe peeps with the wrong spirit or with two spirits weren't just peeps with a different mental issue than gender dysphoria?
Anyway, gender dysphoria is all in the person's head. Nobody else can see what's going on in another person's head. Some mental issues do manifest in a way that others can see, but I don't think gender dysphoria manifest that way, because it's a believe/feeling that the person has. You believe/feel you're in the wrong body. Not all tom-boy girls and effeminate boys that you can clearly see with your eyes believe/feel they're in the wrong body and want to change gender.. Heck, even the person experiencing gender dysphoria should be very careful. Maybe something else is causing that believe/feeling.
Their body really doesn't have the right combination of sex-reproductive system-chroms (among possible other things that don't fit the typical binary notion), which could cause serious health and fertility problems.
Maybe Intersex and DSD peeps are some sort of evolution experiment. Maybe with time Intersex and DSD peeps won't have any health and fertility problems anymore, because evolution has made all kinds of combination of sex-reproductive system-chroms possible. Intersex and DSD will becom the norm. Humans may indeed become like those fishes. But until that happens, if it ever happens, Intersex and DSD peeps are human beings with the wrong combination of sex characteristics, including chromosome patterns, gonads or genitals that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies.
These days, you can’t say women prefer a certain tampon or sanitary pad, because trans-women don’t use those things. But I said women, which is the plural of woman. You’re a trans-woman. Everybody knows that trans-women don't bleed. No matter how much gender-affirming hormone you take, you will never bleed! You need more than a fake vagina to bleed. Nope! If you insist, you’re discriminating. You’ll be called trans-phobic, hater, bigot and God knows what else.
Also, it's called single-sex, not single-gender. Single-sex clearly refers to one of the two sexes – female or male. So females who identify as women can compete. I guess females who identify as men can switch. Oh, wait, they don't have to. They never stopped competing in the female categories.
As stated in the previous chapter, only biological women (XX-chroms) aka female human beings should be allowed in single-sex sports for females. I guess you could have single-gender sports for women (females and males who identify as woman) and single-gender sports for men (females and males who identify as man). Biological women should not particiate in single-gender sports for women.
At the 2024 Olympics, inclusion was more important than safety. The arrogant contempt for the safety of biological women is another sign of misogyny (a man explained the boxing issue). Forget about fairness. In all situations, safety goes first. Heck, I think safety first is actually a very popular and important saying. So safety first, but not in sports while single-sex sports were created to guarantee safety and fairness.
Firstly, nature works in mysterious ways. There's always a spectrum, because there are always two extremes in almost everything. However, most of the time, the majorty of peeps are somewhere in the middle of most spectra/spectrums. For example, there are peeps who (almost) never get sick while there are peeps who constantly get sick. There are freakishly strong biological men and women while there are weirdly weak biological men and women.
So… where should the madness stop in a world where identity is above body?
Trans-man aren't forced to compete with biological men and the single-sex sports for males aren't forced to accept them. Trans-man are allowed to choose, but the categories for males aren't obligated to accept them. Suddenly, safety is very important in single-sex sports for males.
The same can't be said for single-sex sports for females. Biological women are forced to compete with trans-women and the categories for females are forced to accept them.
Reply by Sue-Yin
on September 27, 2024 at 5:49 PM
Without addressing the allegations (which Dr. Luke denies) or mentioning him by name, she said: “I understand that it started a lot of conversations and he was one of many collaborators that I collaborated with.
“But the reality is, it comes from me. The truth is, I wrote these songs from my experience of my whole life going through this metamorphosis, and he was one of the people to help facilitate all that.”
She added: “I am speaking from my own experience. When I speak about ‘Woman’s World,’ I speak about feeling so empowered now, as a mother, as a woman … I created all of this with several different collaborators, people that I’ve collaborated with from the past, from ‘Teenage Dream’ era. All of that.”
Dr. Luke has been one of Perry’s most important creative partners, producing her first No. 1 single ‘I Kissed a Girl’ and other hits, including ‘California Gurls.’ He produced the single ‘Woman’s World’ from Perry’s new record.
In a 2014 lawsuit, Kesha accused her former producer Dr. Luke of drugging and sexually abusing her in 2005. The legal writ also contained allegations of emotional and psychological abuse. Dr. Luke counter-sued for defamation.
The pair settled last year, with Kesha stating that “only God knows what happened that night.” Dr. Luke said: “I am absolutely certain that nothing happened. I never drugged or assaulted her and would never do that to anyone.”
https://deadline.com/2024/09/katy-perry-defends-collaboration-dr-luke-143-call-her-daddy-1236077406/
WOMAN’S WORLD (Official Video)
"Woman's World" is a bubblegum pop and dance-pop track that Perry co-wrote with Chloe Angelides, Dr. Luke, Aaron Joseph, Vaughn Oliver, and Rocco Did It Again!, the last four of whom produced it as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVIJUH29pjU
Lyrics: It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be living in it
Sexy, confident
So intelligent
She is heaven-sent
So soft, so strong
She’s a winner
Champion
Superhuman
Number one
She’s a sister
She’s a mother
Open your eyes, just look around, and you’ll discover
You know
It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be living in it (uh huh, uh huh)
It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be living in it (uh huh, uh huh)
You better celebrate
’Cause baby we ain’t going away
It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be living in it (uh huh, uh huh)
Fire in her eyes
Feminine divine
She was born to shine
To shine, to shine, yeah
She’s a flower
She’s a thorn
Superhuman
Number one
She’s a sister
She’s a mother
Open your eyes, just look around, and you’ll discover
You know
It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be living in it (uh huh, uh huh)
It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be living in it (uh huh, uh huh)
You better celebrate
’Cause baby we ain’t going away
It’s a woman’s world, and you’re lucky to be living in it (uh huh, uh huh)
Lucky to be living in it
Lucky to be living in it
That’s right
It’s a woman’s world
And you’re lucky to be living in it
Uh huh
They are back on the continent. Bucharest is on a Friday and do-able by train. You can hold those signs.
Sony lost like $400M, because gamers boycotted some game full of DEI crap called Concord. I wonder if c*nts like Sophie Holland are happy with all this forced inclusion BS.
So no replies on the thread?
Katie + half naked = successful return
Too bad. It didn't work.
I'm not sure WTH that is. Lots of weird stuff are being discussed.
That's cool. Geeks want to play the game because of the song.
Stefan is looking healthy. He should trim the beard.
Exactly. Let them keep pushing their BS.
Khelif told a press conference after winning her medal: 'I am a woman like any woman. I was born a woman and I have lived as a woman but there are enemies to success and they can't digest my success.'
She later added: 'All that is being said about me on social media is immoral. I want to change the minds of people around the world.'
Change their minds, how? What they want to know is if she has XX-chroms. Nobody cares about what's in her pants. Cells for chromosome analysis can come from a swab of cells taken from inside your mouth or a sample of your hair. Those two are the easiest.
You shouldn’t let anybody know what you have. It's not a good idea to attack someone if you don't know what they have.
There would be a vid if he did. JL lift his twice. There's a little vid of that.
Is the last season. Views won't matter.
My hubby will get special service each time I remember he's XY-chrom.
I doubt it. Do trans-men even exist? Everything is about trans-women.
Peeps play dentist and doctor an Tik Tok. They inject themselves with fillers and Botox. And idiots watching will mimic what they see.
Remember when Twitter was the most annoying evil platform? It's said that Tik Tok is ten times worse.
Lill bro can't afford him.
Reply by AnnaB
on October 4, 2024 at 5:19 AM
The actor recently promoted the latter [Fantastic 4] at San Diego Comic-Con with his co-stars Vanessa Kirby, Joseph Quinn, and Ebon Moss-Bachrach. At one point, Pascal was seen touching Kirby’s arm and they ultimately held hands after. Some saw the behavior as creepy and it received a significant amount of criticism. However, Pedro has been known to have on-stage anxiety and has found various ways to deal with it.
During an event for Los Angeles last year, Pascal was seen putting his left hand on his torso. When his co-star Bella Ramsey asked him about this pose, he said “You know why? It’s because my anxiety is right here” (via Deadline). It was his way of calming himself and controlling his anxiety.
As stated by Huffpost, The Last of Us star has always posed in this way in most red carpet photoshoots and when placed under the spotlight.
The cast made an appearance in San Diego to promote the film and Pascal rubbing his hand on Vanessa Kirby‘s arm at one point turned some people off. The behavior received some backlash but it seems fans have judged the actor too harshly without knowing his intentions behind it. During an event for Los Angeles last year, Pascal was seen putting his left hand on his torso. When his co-star Bella Ramsey asked him about this pose, he said “You know why? It’s because my anxiety is right here” (via Deadline). It was his way of calming himself and controlling his anxiety.
People deal with anxiety in various ways and Pascal and Kirby have become good friends. She knew that Pascal was slightly uncomfortable and thus held his hand to comfort him. Fans supported Pascal’s action of asking her co-star for help. Here are some of the reactions on X,
https://fandomwire.com/im-gonna-have-a-panic-attack-disgusting-allegations-against-pedro-pascal-for-his-viral-moment-with-vanessa-kirby-can-be-proven-wrong-looking-back-at-his-past-on-stage-strug/
Digi what now? For a sec, I thought you meant Digimon as in the Digital Monster anime. lol
I'm so glad for her. Everything sold out and tix weren't cheap. That shows that fans really don't care. This BS about canceling peeps has to stop. Some get canceled for BS while pedophiles can just apologize and get uncanceled.
She better scream. I'm not really fan of the rap. I like Mike's voice, though. But I'm in for the scream. So scream! lol
The one on his IG is nice too. BTW, someone seems to be pumping iron. Those arms look stronger from what I remember. lol
TBH, I don't care if trans peeps think they're like sex-switching fish and/or are possessed by spirits. If you say you're in the wrong body, I'll believe you. No explanation needed, because I'll never know if it's true. So save it.
Nobody cares about trans-men. Trans-women, though, should stay out of female bathrooms and locker rooms if they have a D and they should stay out of female single-sex sports. I'll use whatever pronoun they want, but no word will be redefined to include them, especially words like woman, girl, man, boy, mother, father, family, marriage etc. Come up with new words for your new gender, which is transgender.
Beats me. lol
Well, you'll love this. lol There's a war in the LGBTQIA+ community. Several letters don't like the T either. There's a war in the T-community too. lol
Someone posted lots of vids of YT'ers and TT'ers on TFT to show that many don't support what liberal Trans are doing. They don't want peeps to hate them, because of these "lunatics". So we shouldn't lump them all together.
Several vids were posted where you can see Trans-women say "we are coming for your kids". LGBA peeps think that kind of thing reinforces awful stereotypes about gay/bi men being pedophiles.
So the letters about sexual orientation (LGBA) are not part of this BS that the gender identity letters (T and part of Q) are forcing. LGBA use pronouns that match their sex. Gay/bi men use the male bathroom and locker room and compete in male single-sex sports. They don't want to redefine any word.
There's also war in the T-community and it's so funny. lol
The conservative Trans don't agree with the "transitioning" of minors. That's something heavily promoted and encouraged by liberal Trans. Conservative-Ts agree that Trans-W should stay out of women sports and those with a D should stay out of women spaces. Conservative-Ts call liberal-Ts "transphobic", because they want to erase the Trans identity by insisting they are real women and men.
Liberal-Ts are the ones saying they PMS, go through menopause and women can have the female or the male sex. There's more. lol
Several vids were posted of men who identify as Queer (non-binary). These men wear female clothes, but they keep their beard to show that they aren't on hormones because they aren't Trans. Trans peeps, who fully look the way their new gender traditionally would look, think that these "circus freaks" (lol) are the reason peeps don't take Trans seriously. Queer and Trans are lumped together as cross-dressers, drag queens or as having a "transvestic fetishism". lol
It's me, me, me with the liberal-Ts. They like to use mental health and suicide to get what they want.
One Trans-W wrote that she doesn't feel comfortable going into the male toilet and locker room. If she does that, it will feel like she's just a man. It doesn't help her mental health.
So we should sympathize with you. What about the women who don't feel comfortable seeing a "woman" with a fully grown D in their toilet and locker room? That's not good for our mental health. It's scary. It can be traumatizing for women who had suffered sexual assault. Many XX-women only want to see their bf or husband naked. They only want their bf or husband to see them get naked. But OMG, it gets worse.
Another Trans-W wrote that there shouldn't be separate toilets and locker rooms. Each time she has to choose, it reminds her that she's not a woman. It doesn't help her mental health. She wouldn't have to do that if toilets and locker rooms were gender-neutral.
So millions of women should be forced to share toilets and locker rooms with men so a little group of mentally ill wannabe women can feel comfortable. Sorry, but I had to ask that f*cked up idiot if she took her meds (medications). She deleted her whole account.
Katie is so full of sh*t. The backlash and the single flopping were well deserved. She worked with that man and then made fun of Kesha in the MV. Kesha also did the deflated doll thing.
Is it a good idea to joke about biting someone in the land of vampires? Many think there's something mythical about Romania. Maybe JL believes that too and is easily scared or freaked out.
She really thought nudity will help make that ridiculous song a hit.
I like the one with the white Mars-hawk. lol
Reply by Triksy
on October 4, 2024 at 9:16 AM
Vivian Jenna Wilson, the transgender daughter of Elon Musk, said Thursday in her first interview that he was an absent father who was cruel to her as a child for being queer and feminine.
Wilson, 20, in an exclusive interview with NBC News, responded to comments Musk made Monday about her and her transgender identity. On social media and in an interview posted online, Musk said she was “not a girl” and was figuratively “dead,” and he alleged that he had been “tricked” into authorizing trans-related medical treatment for her when she was 16.
Wilson said that Musk hadn’t been tricked and that, after initially having hesitated, he knew what he was doing when he agreed to her treatment, which required consent from her parents.
Musk’s recent statements crossed a line, she said.
“I think he was under the assumption that I wasn’t going to say anything and I would just let this go unchallenged,” Wilson said in a phone interview. “Which I’m not going to do, because if you’re going to lie about me, like, blatantly to an audience of millions, I’m not just gonna let that slide.”
Wilson said that, for as long as she could remember, Musk hasn’t been a supportive father. She said he was rarely present in her life, leaving her and her siblings to be cared for by their mother or by nannies even though Musk had joint custody, and she said Musk berated her when he was present.
“He was cold,” she said. “He’s very quick to anger. He is uncaring and narcissistic.”
Wilson said that, when she was a child, Musk would harass her for exhibiting feminine traits and pressure her to appear more masculine, including by pushing her to deepen her voice as early as elementary school.
“I was in fourth grade. We went on this road trip that I didn’t know was actually just an advertisement for one of the cars — I don’t remember which one — and he was constantly yelling at me viciously because my voice was too high,” she said. “It was cruel.”
Musk didn’t respond to a request for comment.
Wilson and her twin brother were born to Musk’s first wife, author Justine Musk. The couple divorced in 2008, and Wilson said her parents shared custody between their homes in the Los Angeles area.
Musk, 53, is among the wealthiest people in the world through his stakes in Tesla, where he’s CEO, and in SpaceX, which he founded. He has also become a significant political figure, having endorsed former President Donald Trump this month for another term in the White House. Musk has 12 children, including Wilson.
Now a college student studying languages, Wilson has never granted an interview before and has largely stayed out of public view. She did, however, attract attention in 2022 when she sought court approval in California to change her name and, in the process, denounced her father.
“I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form,” she said in the court filing.
She told NBC News that at the time, she was surprised by the media attention to the court filing, which she submitted when she was 18. She said in the interview that she stands by what she wrote, though she said she might have tried to be more eloquent had she known the coverage it would get.
Wilson said that she hadn’t spoken to Musk in about four years and that she refused to be defined by him.
“I would like to emphasize one thing: I am an adult. I am 20 years old. I am not a child,” she said. “My life should be defined by my own choices.”
Musk threw a spotlight on Wilson on Monday by speaking about their relationship in a video interview with psychologist and conservative commentator Jordan Peterson streamed live on X, saying he didn’t support Wilson’s gender identity.
“I lost my son, essentially,” Musk said. He used Wilson’s birth name, also known as a deadname for transgender people, and said she was “dead, killed by the woke mind virus.”
And in a post on X, Musk said Monday that Wilson was “born gay and slightly autistic” and that, at age 4, she fit certain gay stereotypes, such as loving musicals and using the exclamation “fabulous!” to describe certain clothing. Wilson told NBC News that the anecdotes aren’t true, though she said she did act stereotypically feminine in other ways as a child.
Wilson also addressed Musk’s recent comments in a series of posts Thursday on the social media app Threads.
“He doesn’t know what I was like as a child because he quite simply wasn’t there,” she wrote. “And in the little time that he was I was relentlessly harassed for my femininity and queerness.”
“I’ve been reduced to a happy little stereotype,” she continued. “I think that says alot about how he views queer people and children in general.”
In recent years, Musk has taken a hard-right turn into conservative politics and has been waging a campaign against transgender people and policies designed to support them. This month, he said he was pulling his businesses out of California to protest a new state law that bars schools from requiring that trans kids be outed to their parents.
On X, Musk has for years criticized transgender rights, including medical treatments for trans-identifying minors, and the use of pronouns if they are different from what would be used at birth. He has promoted anti-trans content and called for arresting people who provide trans care to minors.
After Musk bought X, then known as Twitter, in 2022, he rolled back the app’s protections for trans people, including a ban on using deadnames.
Musk told Peterson that Wilson’s gender transition has been the motivation for his push into conservative politics.
“I vowed to destroy the woke mind virus after that, and we’re making some progress,” he said.
Wilson was also mentioned in a biography of Musk by author Walter Isaacson — a book that she told NBC News was inaccurate and unfair to her. The book refers to her politics as “radical Marxism,” quoting Musk’s sister-in-law Christiana Musk, but Wilson said she’s not a Marxist, though she said she does oppose wealth inequality. The book also calls her by her middle name, Jenna.
Wilson said Isaacson never reached out to her directly ahead of publication. In a phone interview Thursday, Isaacson said he had reached out to Wilson through family members.
Christiana Musk didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment Thursday.
Wilson told NBC News that for years she had considered speaking out about Musk’s behavior as a parent and as a person but that she could no longer remain silent after his comments Monday.
She said she had never received an explanation for why her father spent so little time with her and her siblings — behavior that she now views as strange.
“He was there, I want to say, maybe 10% of the time. That’s generous,” she said. “He had half custody, and he fully was not there.”
“It was just a fact of life at the time, so I don’t think I realized just how abnormal of an experience it was,” she added.
Wilson said she came out twice in life: once as gay in eighth grade and a second time as transgender when she was 16. She said that she doesn’t recall Musk’s response the first time and that she wasn’t present when Musk heard from others that she was transgender, because by then the pandemic had started and she was living full-time with her mother.
“She’s very supportive. I love her a lot,” Wilson said of her mom.
The pandemic was a chance to escape Musk’s cruelty, she said.
“When Covid hit, I was like, ‘I’m not going over there,’” she said. “It was basically very lucky timing.”
Musk told Peterson in the interview that he had been “tricked” into signing documents authorizing transgender-related medical treatment for Wilson — an allegation Wilson said isn’t true.
“I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys,” Musk said, using her birth name.
“This was before I had really any understanding of what was going on, and we had Covid going on,” he said, adding that he was told she might commit suicide.
Wilson said that, in 2020, when she was still a minor at 16, she wanted to start treatment for severe gender dysphoria but needed the consent of both parents under California law. She said that her mother was supportive but that Musk initially wasn’t. She said she texted him about it for a while.
“I was trying to do this for months, but he said I had to go meet with him in person,” she said. “At that point, it was very clear that we both had a very distinct disdain for each other.”
When she eventually went and gave him the medical forms, she said, he read them at least twice, once with her and then again on his own, before he signed them.
“He was not by any means tricked. He knew the full side effects,” she said.
She said she took puberty blockers before she switched to hormone-replacement therapy — treatments that she said were lifesaving for her and other transgender people.
“They save lives. Let’s not get that twisted,” she said. “They definitely allowed me to thrive.”
She said she believed the requirements to obtain such treatments remain onerous, with teenagers pressured to say they’re at extreme risk of self-harm before they’ll be approved. She said she felt judged by Musk and Peterson, in the Monday interview, for not being at a high enough risk in their eyes.
“I have been basically put into a point where, to a group of people, I have to basically prove whether or not I was suicidal or not to warrant medically transitioning,” she said. “It’s absolutely mind-boggling.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-transgender-daughter-vivian-wilson-interview-rcna163665
Elon thinks they tricked him. His daughter (son) claims he's lying. I think they were both tricked.
She said she believed the requirements to obtain such treatments remain onerous, with teenagers pressured to say they’re at extreme risk of self-harm before they’ll be approved. [...] “I have been basically put into a point where, to a group of people, I have to basically prove whether or not I was suicidal or not to warrant medically transitioning,”
I think she was pressured to say she was suicidal, so they could tell Elon his son will kill himself if he doesn't sign.
Micropenis is really a word. It's actually a medical term. I thought you were trying to be funny.
Micropenis is a medical term for a small but normally structured penis. A micropenis is an atypically small penis that’s discovered in infancy or very early childhood. It’s usually the result of a fetal testosterone deficiency. As long as no other health concerns are present, a micropenis can function normally. In some people, early hormonal treatment may help stimulate growth of the penis toward a more normal length.
Exactly. Some still think women have to strip down and do some painful test. It's humiliating, they say. I thought we are in the 21st century. Mobile phones, internet, AI, Digi-sapiens etc. and some think women have to show their vaginas to be able to compete in single-sex female sports.
It is possible to think without losing brain cells.
I think they want the Trans population to grow. So target vulnerable young people.
Some may be suicidal. Those who are not are pressured to say they are.
She said she believed the requirements to obtain such treatments remain onerous, with teenagers pressured to say they’re at extreme risk of self-harm before they’ll be approved.
Who knew that list could serve such an important purpose.
Reply by Blue-Rose
on October 9, 2024 at 11:53 AM
Is more than 24 hours travel by train. I haven't been on a night train in years.
Lots of weird stuff is happening. Suddenly, there's a lot of talk about trans-peeps everywhere.
If you find something about trans-peeps.
Trans-men is not a threat to men or anybody. I doubt a woman will pretend to be a man just to go play peeping-Jane in the male toilet or locker room.
Exactly. Although, I don't think they think they're possessed by two or the wrong spirit.
They want to erase certain words completely. Caregiver should replace mother and father.
These people's idea of inclusion is the exclusion of others. They seem to forget that inclusion means to make something part of something else. New things should be added to existing things so everybody is "represented". By making everything gender-neutral you're just thinking about those who don't care about existing genders. So those who care should be ignored or erased.
I feel like I should send those conservative-Ts a fruit basket. They should keep up the good work.
Apparently, TikTok and the pandemic didn't do some people's brains any good. Locked at home with plenty of time to do BS on TikTok.
The LGBA and conservative-Ts should make it clear that they don't want to be part of the LGBTQIA+ anymore. Don't expect attention seekers to quit identifying as LGBTQIA+.
Well, duh! You are a man.
But I think we found a cure for trans-W. Let's add more male-only places. That's how trans-W will remember they're actually males and start feeling like men again.
Well, duh! You are not a woman. Your biology is calling. Redefining the word "woman" doesn't seem to help, huh?
Seriously, we need to place male-only places in front of female-only place so the male-only places are the first things everybody sees.
Why would Vladislav Dragulya freak out?
JlL should wear the outfit that made him look like the leader of a Satanic cult again.
BTW, I added what you wrote. I had to do more than just "clean it up". I had to add lots of stuff. Thank goodness, it was interesting stuff. We need to have some girly-girly talk about that. Sneaky self-care talk.
There is something called female ejaculation, which should not be confused with squirting. Actually, squirting is what trans-men can do with their designer D. Well, I'll be damned.
Yep. They're so cute you just want to hurt them. Nice place to put salted caramel. The Adam's apple too.
I'm traumatized by those lists.
I don't think any parent want the death of their kid on their conscience. So they will sign. But would a second or third opinion have a different diagnosed and treatment? Apparently, lots of trans are working in those gender-affirming care centers. So my money is on no and no.
That might be true. Also, make kids infertile as a means for population control.
The different genders
Apparently, some hermaphrodite can have just both sexual organs (V and P), some may (also) have both XY and XX-chroms, some may (also) have ovarian and testicular tissue and some may (also) have ovary and a testis in the case of genetic mosaicism.
Anyway, like with sports, trans-men don't detach themselves completely from their female beginnings/make-up. Besides keep competing with females, they want you to remember that they bleed too when you're making a commercial for tampon or sanitary pad, even though they're men. One would think, if you're a man, you wouldn't want to be associated with that very female thing. Heck, even biological women want to forget that monthly annoyance. Now you're trying to be a man, but you want to remember the monthly bleeding? If you're a man that bleeds, shouldn't you keep it on the down-low?
Trans-men also seem to refrain from using the word ejaculation. They seem to remember that they have no prostate and seminal vesicles to do so. Apparently, it has been scientifically established that only biological men and male animals can ejaculate. What comes out of their P is semen, which contains sperm. The fluid that comes out of a trans-man's surgically created P is the same fluid that would come out of the urethra if they ever squirted when they had a V.
Squirting (gushing) is a sudden expulsion of liquid that comes from the bladder through the urethra (the pee hole). The expulsed liquid contains urine. But a recent study has shown that the squirt of some women also contains a little bit of fluid secretion from the skene’s glands, which have the same material as a man's prostate (prostate-specific antigen (PSA) and PSA phosphatase, two enzymes that can be markers of health).
BTW, there's something called female ejaculation, but very little is known about it. Apparently, there have been very few studies about it. But in the scientific community, female ejaculation is characterized as an expulsion of fluid from the skene's gland during or before an orgasm. The expulsed fluid comes out of your V-opening and it's clear or whitish in color with a mucus-like consistency.
Unlike trans-men, trans-women detach themselves completely from their male beginnings/make-up. In sports, they're eager to start competing with females. They want to be female so badly that they want you to remember them when you're making a commercial about tampons or sanitary pads. Some trans-women insist they have periods, even though they have no uterus and ovaries to do so. They insist they go through menopause and experience hormonal fluctuations that causes symptoms similar to PMS.
Of course trans-women will experience change in their hormone level. They get female hormones regularly injected into their male body to keep them looking like a female. Females have PMS, because it's part of their very high-maintenance reproductive system. Biology, not ideology. So whatever symptoms female-hormones-injected-into-the-male-body causes should be called something else. Trans-women should not use the name of something natural and normal to females for whatever it is that they're experiencing or think they're feeling.
BTW, there are biological women who don't bleed, because of a (medical) condition. Conditions that can cause amenorrhea (no bleeding) include hormonal disorders, birth defects and genetic disorders. The use of certain medications can also cause amenorrhea. So trans-women shouldn't pretend they don't bleed because of a medical condition either. What they have isn't a medical condition. Their male anatomy simply doesn't allow them to bleed. Biology, not ideology. As simple as that.
Reply by AnnaB
on October 11, 2024 at 4:56 AM
OMG! OK, I’m speechless.
Tesla has once again pushed the boundaries of innovation, this time in the realm of robotics with the unveiling of Optimus, their humanoid robot. At the recent We, Robot event, CEO Elon Musk presented Optimus as a game-changer not only for Tesla but also for industries and households worldwide. Musk didn’t hold back his enthusiasm, boldly stating that Optimus has the potential to be “the biggest product ever”—bigger than Tesla’s cars, solar solutions, or energy storage systems.
The Physical and Technical Build of Optimus
At first glance, Optimus might resemble something out of a sci-fi movie. Standing at 5'8" (roughly 173 cm) and weighing between 125-160 lbs (57-73 kg), the robot is designed to move fluidly, thanks to 28 structural actuators that grant it impressive dexterity and human-like movement. Optimus’s hands alone have between 11-22 degrees of freedom, giving it the ability to handle delicate objects or perform complex tasks, from sorting packages to operating tools. This gives Tesla's robot a significant edge in industries like manufacturing, logistics, and even personal household services.
Powered by Tesla's neural network and AI systems, Optimus can adapt to its environment, learn new tasks, and carry out operations autonomously. It is fitted with eight autopilot cameras, similar to Tesla’s Full-Self Driving (FSD) vehicles, which help it navigate spaces without human input. This means it can learn tasks by observing humans or through remote operation, making it a highly adaptable asset.
Capabilities and Use Cases: A Jack of All
Trades Tesla has lofty ambitions for Optimus. At the unveiling, Musk demonstrated that this robot is designed to do more than just perform a single function; it can handle a wide range of tasks, from carrying groceries and walking pets to babysitting or even acting as a personal assistant. Imagine a future where a robot like Optimus helps you with your morning chores, folds laundry, and serves coffee—all while adjusting to your specific preferences.
In industrial settings, Optimus is expected to revolutionise labor-intensive sectors. Musk emphasised that the robot could replace humans in high-risk jobs, such as repetitive tasks in manufacturing, handling heavy materials, or navigating complex industrial environments. Tesla itself has already begun to test Optimus in its factories, where the robot moves parts and assists in assembly lines.
This versatility gives Optimus the potential to become a significant player in industries beyond Tesla’s electric vehicle production. In logistics, the robot could optimise warehouse operations, reducing human error and increasing efficiency. In service industries, it could take on roles from bartending to hotel management—tasks that require physical interaction but not necessarily human judgment.
Affordability: Bringing Robotics to the Masses
One of the most exciting aspects of Tesla’s Optimus is its price. Although the final version is still under development, Musk predicts that once Optimus reaches mass production, it will be priced between $20,000 and $30,000. This makes it far more affordable than many current humanoid robots, which often cost upwards of $100,000. If Tesla can achieve these price targets, Optimus could make home robots a reality for middle-class families within the next decade.
This affordability isn’t just limited to homes. With a projected cost far lower than human labor in some industries, businesses may find it economically viable to deploy fleets of Optimus robots in factories, logistics centers, and even retail environments. The long-term goal is to scale Optimus to the point where it’s not just a luxury but a common tool, much like smartphones and personal computers.
A $20 Trillion Market? Ambitious Projections for a Robotic Future
Elon Musk doesn’t shy away from bold predictions. Tesla’s CEO believes that Optimus has the potential to unlock a $20 trillion market, predicting that, at scale, the robot could generate over $1 trillion in annual profits. While these estimates seem ambitious, they highlight Tesla's aggressive plans for humanoid robots in both the consumer and industrial sectors.
With Optimus, Tesla also aims to outpace competitors like Boston Dynamics, whose Atlas robot has made headlines for its agility but lacks mass-market affordability. Tesla is betting that its years of experience with AI, automation, and battery technology will allow it to leapfrog competitors by producing an efficient and cost-effective humanoid robot.
Ethical Considerations and the Road Ahead
With Optimus poised to enter the labor market, concerns about job displacement have come to the forefront. As robots like Optimus begin to take over repetitive or dangerous tasks, there's growing apprehension about how this will affect human workers, particularly in industries like manufacturing, logistics, and services. The adoption of humanoid robots could also raise ethical questions about autonomy, robot rights, and human-robot interactions.
Musk addressed some of these concerns, stating that while job displacement may be an issue, Optimus will also create new opportunities—especially in the field of robotics maintenance, AI development, and more. Moreover, as robots take on more mundane tasks, humans could focus on creative and intellectual work that drives innovation.
But beyond the ethical and economic questions lies the challenge of making Optimus truly fit for the human environment. Musk has acknowledged that achieving lifelike human movement and interaction poses significant engineering hurdles. While Optimus is already capable of walking and performing tasks, it lacks the micro-expressions and nuanced gestures that make human-robot interaction less "creepy." Engineers at Tesla are working on these aspects, and the goal is to make Optimus not just functional but pleasant to interact with.
Conclusion: A Bold Step Toward the Future
Tesla’s Optimus robot may well become the biggest product of the next decade, transforming both homes and industries alike. With a target price of $20,000-$30,000, the robot is set to democratise access to advanced humanoid technology, opening up possibilities previously reserved for science fiction.
However, like all disruptive technologies, Optimus brings challenges along with its promises—questions about job displacement, human-robot relationships, and the ethical use of automation. Yet, if Tesla's vision comes to fruition, the future of robotics will not just be about functionality but about making robots integral, helpful, and even personable parts of our daily lives. So, as Elon Musk quipped during the event, “Optimus will walk amongst you”—and soon, it may well become your new best friend.
https://yourstory.com/2024/10/teslas-humanoid-unveiled-optimus
According to some Americans, there is something called Human Rights Campaign (HRC) that gives organizations points when they do stuff for the LGBTQIA+ community.
One of those efforts is to pay Drags and Trans to give shows and lectures at primary schools about being part of the LGBTQIA+ and gender transition. That’s just crazy.
Yeah, they play the victim by keep saying things aren't good for their mental health. Their mental health is more important than everybody else's. Well, I just roll my eyes.
Would you play peeping-Jane if HC is in the locker room? lol
Good idea. lol Being in the wrong body is all about feeling you're in the wrong body. If you have a male body and certain things make you feel like a man, then more of those things should be added to your daily life.
What’s the harmless puppy doing these days? BRB
Well, besides showing his chest and cute nipples, not much. lol
You really want to know stuff about trans-peeps, don't you?
Are we gonna talk about sex, boys and toys? Are we gonna share what we like to do to boys?
I think female ejaculation is what women call orgasm. When a woman climax, a whitish "mucus" comes out of her vagina? That shouldn't be confused with the natural clear lubricant that happens when your horny (get wet or wet your undies).
And yeah, you squirt out of the pee hole. I thought that was a different fluid than urine. Why would someone want to spray urine while having sex? Why would they show that in a talk/educational show? It's a very aggressive act. At least on the show, it was done with two fingers. Of course it's film in a way that doesn't show body parts, but you get a pretty good idea how it's done. Looks like you will be sore for a few days.
Nobody should ask a 12/13 yo if they want to have kids. They ask kids that before putting them on puberty blockers. Is just horrible. The parents shouldn't make that decision for the kid either.
Really? Thirteen genders?
So this is the future of women in sports. As a female, you will lose to trans-women. As a trans-man, you will lose to males. No more female athletes. You should keep your job and just play a sport for fun on Saturday.
When I read the procedures, I felt like they belong in a Franken Stein film. It's horrifying to read. I don't believe that thing has feelings. If you feel something, it will be an unpleasant feeling. The clit is very sensitive. A lengthen one wrapped in skin sound painful.
Yes, this is getting really crazy. XX-women should refuse to play.
Reply by Blue-Rose
on October 14, 2024 at 1:55 PM
This is more I, Robot than Terminator. So Viki will take over, not Skynet.
I looked that up. Some big brands are turning away from DEI initiatives and/or are scaling back their Pride campaigns. I posted about this topic in one of the two new posts on the thread.
You really think I'd break HC's privacy like that? Well, you thought right. In an ideal world, I wouldn't have to play peeping-Jane. HC would be living with me and he shouldn't wear any clothes at home.
Yep. This transgender BS is serious. Apparently, Nike is a supporter of trans-W in female sports. Ugh! I'm glad the UN just reported about the intrusion of trans-W in females sports. This is also in the new posts on the thread.
I meant in the context of the trans topic. But we can always add some talk about sex, boys and toys.
In the scientific community, orgasm is characterized by intense sexual pleasure resulting in rhythmic, involuntary muscular contractions in the pelvic region. Orgasms are controlled by the involuntary or autonomic nervous system. The body's response includes muscular spasms (in multiple areas), a general euphoric sensation, and, frequently, body movements and vocalizations. The period after orgasm (known as the resolution phase) is typically a relaxing experience, after the release of the neurohormones oxytocin and prolactin, as well as endorphins (or "endogenous morphine").
As you can read, actually the brain is releasing stuff, not the sexual organ.
Of course, men tend to ejaculate too. You can clearly see it. There's a saying women can fake it, but men can't. Well, not all women ejaculate enough fluid (secretion from the skene’s glands) to make it clear that they had an orgasm. I guess that's the reason scientist don't really link ejaculation to female orgasm like they do with men.
Squirting is clearly visible, because it's like a fountain. But it comes from the bladder. Although, women are very complex. You can't generalize. Some women do have a little bit of secretion from the skene’s glands in their squirt fluid.
Apparently, since Fifty Shades Of Gray, lots of controversial sex stuff became popular. Sex talk always gets lots of views too.
Reply by AnnaB
on October 18, 2024 at 5:58 AM
Awful news to wake up to. How many more lives should alcohol and drugs claim before celebs learn to stay away from that stuff?
Rebecca, not her real name, a 28-year-old IT consultant from Washington DC, took these haunting photographs of Payne in the lobby shortly before his death.
She said his bizarre behaviour and its horrific aftermath had left her 'shaken'. As tributes continued to pour in for Payne, including from his former bandmates:
Rebecca's surprise 30-minute long encounter with Payne took place in the foyer of the hotel, where she was staying for a wedding. Payne had been due to check out on Wednesday morning, but still had not done so by late afternoon, she claimed.
Rebecca took her photos from 4.26pm local time (8.26pm UK time) - which is also when Payne made the 'boy band' comment. Just 36 minutes later, hotel staff raised the alarm at 5.04pm following Payne's fall. An ambulance arrived at 5.11pm and Payne was then certified dead.
Rebecca told MailOnline in an exclusive interview: 'One of my friends was due to get his suite, so the hotel staff were a little on edge because he still hadn't checked out at 4.30pm, but also because of his behaviour.
'I came into the hotel, and he was waiting by the elevator, and it was so clear he wanted someone to recognise him, there was something a bit desperate about him.
'I was with my friends and we did know who he was, but none of us were that bothered.
'When the lift came he suddenly said to us without any prompting: 'Yes, I'm Liam!' really drawing it out, and then said 'All right come on you lot, get in the elevator with me, I love a cuddle'.
'I decided against it and waited for the next one, but some of the other girls got in with him and half way up, he started saying 'Oh, you're Americans, I live in West Palm Beach.
'I know Americans. You guys are f*ing crazy! You guys are f*ing dangerous!
'And then he grabs a girl who I think was with him and starts fake choking her, only lightly, but the others thought it was really disturbing.'
Rebecca said she returned to the lobby ten minutes later and shortly afterwards, Payne arrived back, dangling his open laptop nonchalantly from one corner.
He then began reading emails after flopping onto a sofa, wearing a white vest, cargo pants and trainers.
'I have a blind relative and I realised he had the laptop on its accessibility setting, for some reason, so that each time he moved the mouse, hovering over something the machine spoke out loud to say where the cursor was,' said Rebecca.
'I assumed he was doing that for the attention too. Then he opened his emails and saw one which obviously upset him. Suddenly he took the computer, shouted 'f*k this s*t mate!' and started bashing the computer on the ground.
'Everyone, especially the staff was really shocked. It's a high-end hotel and his behaviour was so out of place - people were just chilling.
'I went over, asked 'are you OK?' But he just kind of grunted. Then he said 'I used to be in a boyband. That's why I'm so f**ked up.'
'I couldn't believe he'd just come out and said something like that. There was a lot more swearing and he took the laptop over and went to get back in the lift.
'After he'd gone, the British guy from his entourage, who I think was called Roger, came over and apologised on his behalf, saying 'I'm sorry, he just gets so high sometimes'.
'I did wonder what these people with him were doing to help him, but maybe they had tried and failed. The hotel staff were freaking out and watching him really nervously. I could see one of them was on the phone to what I assumed was security or the police.
'I've never taken cocaine, but he was behaving exactly as I'd imagine someone would on the drug – he wasn't focusing, and his pupils were dilated, and he was behaving in aggressive way – though not to anyone in particular.'
Rebecca couldn't work out why Payne was hanging around the lobby but wondered afterwards whether he was planning to meet someone to resupply his drugs.
Then after a few minutes, he returned to the lobby, she recalled.
Rebecca said: 'He walked in again and just tripped and fell flat on his face, sprawling across the floor. The staff came to help him and get him back in the elevator, and that's when I took the last photo.
'You can just see the arm of the English guy who was with him, holding the lift door open before taking them up to the third floor again.
'It wasn't long after that when the police arrived and initially we thought they were just going to kick him out, but then when the staff started running around like crazy, we suddenly realised the seriousness of what had happened.
'Some of my friends had seen him falling, it was awful, and at first they thought he might have just injured himself, but then we saw the body out in the courtyard, and later they brought him out on a stretcher, it was all so horrible.'
Rebecca said that after the horrific experience, she spent Wednesday night with friends away from the hotel, partly because of what had happened, but also the noise of teenage fans outside in the street singing and crying.
She added: 'They were playing his music all night and someone actually brought along a Ouija board to try and communicate with Liam, it was crazy.'
Payne, who rose to fame with One Direction on The X Factor, died after falling from a third floor balcony of the Casa Sur Hotel on Wednesday.
He died of multiple traumas and 'internal and external haemorrhage', a post-mortem examination report said.
Argentina's National Criminal and Correctional Prosecutor's Office No 16 said it was investigating the incident as an 'inconclusive death' following the report.
After Payne's death, five witnesses were questioned in order to reconstruct what happened, the prosecutor's office said.
Reports said staff at the hotel made two calls to emergency services with audio revealing a staff member had asked for assistance for a guest who was 'intoxicated by drugs and alcohol'.
Police in the capital said the music star's hotel room had been 'in complete disarray' with 'various items broken' - adding that a whiskey bottle, lighter and mobile phone had been retrieved from the internal hotel courtyard where Payne's body was found.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13974125/Liam-Payne-death-admission-hotel-guest-final-photos.html
You'll keep looking at HC all day with an ear to ear smile like the peeps in the film Smile.
OMG, brain-gasm isn't just a geek and nerd thing? lol I'm shocked!
Unconventional and taboo stuff will get even more views.
I can't tell if you're understanding it right with certainty. lol But it's said that pro trans peeps are hiding behind abortion. They're using the language in a way to strengthen the abortion law and at the same time make it impossible to make rules that forbids the participation of trans-W in single-sex female sports.
I think the inclusion of "gender identity or expression" in the list of characteristic in section 11.a. makes that possible. Discrimination based on gender identity or expression is won't be allowed.
Is this what weirdos mean with many sexes?
Nike is the go-to brand for sports gear. Females or XX-women/girls should quit buying their stuff.